Ab-Soul – Control System [Review]

I am not going to give you this hipster intro. I have not been listening to Ab-Soul since he used to roll blunts for Kurupt in ’96. I do not possess any of his unreleased work. I do not even own or really listened to any of his previous mixtapes. I just know “Ab-Soul’s Outro” from Kendrick Lamar’s debut album and some other features. Aside from that, I am oblivious to what the soul of Ab-Soul has to give. That is why I am wondering what this Control System is about.

1. Soulo Ho3
Featuring Jhené Aiko; Produced by Sounwave & Dave Free of Digi+Phonics
“Are you ready? I am because it is all about control”. The beautiful Jhené Aiko assists the introduction. She tries, as she has many times, to make a song memorable. She falls short yet again. There are many tracks that her assistance is not really needed. This is just adding to the list. She is no Jaguar Wright. Ab-Soul delivers solid lyrics but he could have done this by himself. If he is going to be the secret weapon of TDE, he going have to hold his own. The audience likes minimal and strategic features.

2. Track Two
Produced by Taebeast of Digi + Phonics
Does this song sound familiar to you? Yeah, the beginning of this track was similarly voiced on “Ronald Reagan Era” on Section.80. I do not like the fact we are recycling lyrics? We need to leave that to Lloyd. Is this a cover album? Is he going to do “Gin & Juice too? I love that song. But really the track could not end soon enough. It should have kept with the theme and only been two minutes. It did not grab the attention of the audience in a positive manner.

3. Bohemian Grove
Produced by Taebeast & Dave Free of Digi + Phonics
This is the type of track that was needed to get the album on the right foot. It reminds me of “Hennessy Beach” with a splatter of conscious rap. Ab-Soul shows off his unique delivery to match with the harmonious production. The anticipation for the next track is built up with the chattel speech at the end. Where is he going with this?

4. Terrorist Threats
Featuring Danny Brown & Jhene Aiko; Produced by Dave Free of Digi + Phonics
Here goes everyone’s favorite track on the album. I have had my ears to the street. Did he manipulate a Biggie chorus to make the audience slightly familiar song and give it a universal sound? Hasn’t an artist already done this recently for his debut album? Yes, it was Kendrick Lamar. You can see it perfect on the track “Blow My High”. But Danny Brown happily assists “Terrorist Threats” and Jhene Aiko could not even bring this song down. The heavy bass keeps your head knocking and want you to pick up a pitchfork and start a revolution. “I ain’t finna to be no one chattel”.

5. Pineal Gland
Produced by Taebeast of Digi +Phonics
The horror-themed keyboard changes the mood significantly for the album. This is not good either. There is even a 2 Chainz reference. That is not Soulo’s lane at all. You should just listen to “Terrorist Threats” again and skip this one. I did not even know the pineal gland was the third eye until doing some research. Ab-Soul’s eyes were swollen shut because of Steven Johnson’s complication for three months. That is more entertainment than you will get from this song.

6. Double Standards
Produced by Sounwave of Digi + Phonics (Additional Guitar by J. Valle)
Ab-Soul taps on a subject that is overlooked in misogyny. He might not be the Brian McKnight of singing but he held his own on the hook too. That Amber Cole reference should be added to the Constitution.

7. Mixed Emotions
Produced by King Blue
This is the banger the audience was looking for the summer. This is a perfect poolside track in this global warming weather. It is all about a good time no matter what your vice is. Ab-Soul’s vice is lean by the way. The mood changing with BJ the Chicago Kid is the ultimate way to end a track.

8. SOPA
Featuring Schoolboy Q; Produced by Nez & Rio
This song was created for Schoolboy Q not Ab-Soul. It sounds like the track left on the cutting room floor before deciding on the beat for “niggaHs.already.know.davers.flow”. I did not witness it but that is the image I got. The connection between the two West Coast rappers shines at the end and wants you to “don’t stop and get it, get it”. That is in the most heterosexual way possible.

9. Lust Demons
Featuring Jay Rock & BJ the Chicago Kid; Produced by Taebeast of Digi + Phonics
Inspired by pre-pissing R. Kelly, Ab-soul speaks on sexual intercourse and women on “Lust Demons.” A subject touched more times than a Law & Order: SVU rape victim. He invited Jay Rock and BJ the Chicago Kid to make the track sound crowded and unorganized.

10. Illuminate
Featuring Kendrick Lamar; Produced by Skhye Hutch
Ab-Soul did the impossible on this one. Many times it has been attempted but not one artist has accomplished such a feat. Ab-Soul went toe to toe with Kendrick Lamar without getting overshadowed. Yes, Kendrick Lamar might have made gun sounds in a middle of a track that makes Waka Flocka’s name look even more foolish. But TDE is strong all around. There is not a flat tire on this well-oiled machine.

11. A Rebellion
Featuring Alori Joh; Produced by Curtiss King
We see a totally different side of Ab-Soul with “A Rebellion”. He voices his personal thoughts and slows down the tempo of the album for a brief minute. He is not alone with this one no matter what he says.

12. Showin’ Love
Produced by Willie B of Digi + Phonics
The sound of that hi hat is quite annoying. I never liked it and never will. It just displays mediocrity and laziness from the producer. Is there a bomb in my room? Is my watch ticking that loud? Did I forget to turn the stove off? I will just turn this song off.

13. Empathy
Featuring Alori Joh & Javonte’
The change of the tone of Ab-Soul makes for a level track to enjoy. Alori Joh’s vocals fit nicely to make a good pairing.

14. Nothings Something
Produced by Aahyasis
The simple production of the constant bass appeals to the audience. It might not be the longest song but it gets its point across. It is always something

15. Beautiful Death
Featuring Punch & Ashtrobot; Produced by Skhye Hutch
Here goes another rebellion track from Ab-Soul about America. He brought along Ashtrobot and Punch to show he is not alone on this movement. It is a slight different message but still the results are the same. America is not good and it is all going to end soon. Thanks, Mayans.

16. The Book Of Soul
Produced by Tommy Black
“The Book Of Soul” makes me feel like I just walked into the Cotton Club. Soul shows his vulnerability again about losing his first love in Alori Joh. I felt I should snap in approval at the end for the authenticity. The soul definitely shines through.

17. Black Lip Bastard
Featuring Jay Rock, Kendrick Lamar, & Schoolboy Q; Produced by Willie B of Digi + Phonics
A crew track is a good way to end this album. It makes you think that they can go toe to toe with Slaughterhouse. Yeah, I said it.

Bottom Line:
It is not the album of the year. It still has the sound of a mixtape with the recycled lyrics and hooks of other accomplished artists. Kendrick Lamar did it once and succeeded. We do not want to recycle a recycle. I know we are going to green but let us not get out of hand. Yes, there are some standout tracks that are album material. But there are some others that you wish never hit your iTunes library. I control the power to delete the throwaways and keep the standouts. That is what I will do too. It is my booming system.

  1. I couldn’t disagree more with you. This review really cheapens the quality of this album.

    For one, the organic interworkings of Black Hippy is criticized here where it should be praised. The reoccurring themes in wordplay and song construction have been seen on each member’s album/mixtapes since “I Am Kendrick Lamar” dropped. It’s a technique used to keep a cohesive feeling throughout their collective catalog. It’s not recycling lyrics.

    What does Track Two sound familiar to?

    “Did he manipulate a Biggie chorus to
    make the audience slightly familiar song and give it a universal sound?
    Hasn’t an artist already done this recently for his debut album? Yes,
    it was Kendrick Lamar. You can see it perfect on the track “Blow My High”.” What’s the significance of this statement?

    Skip Pineal Gland? Seriously? On A HiiiPower album?

    “Inspired by pre-pissing R. Kelly, Ab-soul speaks on sexual intercourse
    and women on “Lust Demons.” A subject touched more times than a Law & Order: SVU rape victim. He invited Jay Rock and BJ the Chicago Kid to make the track sound crowded and unorganized.” —- the fuck bro? lol

    I feel ya if you don’t like the track, but Willie B “displays mediocrity and laziness”. No. Sir. He produced Rigamortis, Black Lip Bastard, Poe Man’s Dreams, Hol’ Up etc.

    “America is not good and it is all going to end soon” Not quite…

    “It still has the sound of a mixtape with the recycled lyrics and hooks
    of other accomplished artists. Kendrick Lamar did it once and succeeded.
    We do not want to recycle a recycle. I know we are going to green but
    let us not get out of hand.” I’m not exactly sure where you got this from, how it’s detrimental to the album, or how ironic it is that Section.80 borrowed HEAVILY from Ab-Soul.

    I assume I enjoy this album a lot more because I’m immersed in the Black Hippy story and been listening for a while. It makes sense when you’ve heard Longterm Mentality, Longterm 2, Section.80, Setbacks, & Habits n Contradictions cause they all borrow from each other and sound like parts of one big project. Personally would have gave this a 4.5.

    And btw, Slaughterhouse is NOT fuckin wit Black Hippy. At All.

    (And I still got that partially finished Longterm Mentality review in the vault smh)

    1. Yeah this review was real cheap. Everyone has an opinion though I felt like u hated most of the good songs on the ablum. Pineal gland is dope

    2. This “organic interworkings” you speak of is also done with Young Money and we (well, we should) criticize them for doing it. So we can’t give “Black Hippy” a pass since they are more talented. I just do not like that concept of the recycle. If I want to hear a good cover song, I would listen to Kelly Price “As We Lay.”

      Track two sounds like “Ronald Reagan Era” slightly. He does not have the tenacity like Kendrick Lamar had but it sounds like that just a TAD.

      The significance of that statement is that I have already seen this movie. I do not see it again. It is like the Hangover 2. You know how it is basically the same movie but just in a different location? The development and layout of Control System is like Section.80 just with a different artist.

      Yes, skip “Pineal Gland.” I could not get down with the beat. The concept is fine but just can not listen to it for that long without getting that annoying beat in my brain.

      The R. Kelly and SVU was a joke. But this song was not worth remembering.

      He displayed mediocrity on that track. Maybe his brain was tired from making all of those other phenomenal tracks. Every track can not be good. Timbaland did produce Nas “You Won’t See Me Tonight.” They all can not be gems.

      I got tired of trying to decipher it after a while. I know it is just some more revolutionary lyrics.

      Well show me the borrows Kendrick Lamar used from Ab-Soul. I will be open to hear them.

      Well maybe I need to dig into the Black Hippy vaults to understand it all. But I should not have to do that to understand an artist real debut album.

      (Shit, this took a long time to write.)

      1. Well YMCMB isn’t a group. It’s a label. Significantly different because, as I mentioned before, Black Hippy projects build and borrow on each other which is not the case with YMCMB. I’m still not sure how you consider it a cover song. It’s a reoccurring character.

        Ab-Soul is as tenacious, if not more, compared to Kendrick. But that’s opinion.

        HiiiPower is Ab-Soul’s brain child. Kendrick just happened to benefit most from it. Longterm 2 was Section.80 before Section.80 was Section.80

        Pineal Gland & Lust Demons are two of my favorite songs, but we can leave that as it it cause again, that’s opinion.

        I thought you was saying Willie B was mediocre as a producer. It was the phrasing.

        Deciphering the lyrics, concept, and message of the album is a crucial part of the review. Probably should have given it a little more thought.

        All I can say is compare Kendrick’s albums to the Longterm series. Dude was definitely taking notes. He’s doing Ab-Soul better than Ab-Soul.

        But yea check out the back story. You got about 4 years of dope ass music to check out and you won’t regret it bro

        1. I wasn’t being completely serious with the cover song. I just do not really like the borrowing. I like as much originality as possible.

          I did not hear a song like “The Heart Pt. 2” on this album. Feel free to point in that direction.

          I guess I have to listen to Longterm 2.

          I want to forget Lust Demons even happen.

          I did not really know of his previous works but from that list. I know that he has better skills than what he produced on that track.

          I gave it at least three full listens…if not more.

          I will try to get around to it.

  2. I do not like this review. However, to each his own. I’m glad nappyafro did review this album, even though I’m not particularly pleased with the results. (This does not mean I agree with Vic or everything he’s saying). I do not want to continue complaining, I’m just very disappointed.

    1. I am sorry. I could not praise it like everyone else. It had its high and lows. It is similar to hip hop in general. It is on its high right now with Curren$y and Big K.R.I.T. releasing music.

      1. I understand we’re not going to agree on the quality of the music, opinions exist (you didn’t give it a terrible score anyway). But aside from the difference in opinion, I also do not like the review and how it was done. I’m not attempting to start an argument, though. I’m not going to be doing any better (I don’t write reviews), so thank you for your effort and contribution to nappyafro. Maybe this could receive a “Second Opinion” featuring the majority of the nappyafro crew, being that it has received plenty feedback. That’d be appreciated by me.

          1. I didn’t say that was specifically why. But you’re right, it is all cool, and the review’s your opinion.

    2. Dang, I thought I wuz gonna be the first 2 say I didn’t like the review. I do agree with the rating though, and I am a fan of Ab. I simply think he could’ve done better.

  3. I couldn’t disagree more with you. This review really cheapens the quality of this album.

    For one, the organic interworkings of Black Hippy is criticized here where it should be praised. The reoccurring themes in wordplay and song construction have been seen on each member’s album/mixtapes since “I Am Kendrick Lamar” dropped. It’s a technique used to keep a cohesive feeling throughout their collective catalog. It’s not recycling lyrics.

    What does Track Two sound familiar to?

    “Did he manipulate a Biggie chorus to
    make the audience slightly familiar song and give it a universal sound?
    Hasn’t an artist already done this recently for his debut album? Yes,
    it was Kendrick Lamar. You can see it perfect on the track “Blow My High”.” What’s the significance of this statement?

    Skip Pineal Gland? Seriously? On A HiiiPower album?

    “Inspired by pre-pissing R. Kelly, Ab-soul speaks on sexual intercourse
    and women on “Lust Demons.” A subject touched more times than a Law & Order: SVU rape victim. He invited Jay Rock and BJ the Chicago Kid to make the track sound crowded and unorganized.” —- the fuck bro? lol

    I feel ya if you don’t like the track, but Willie B “displays mediocrity and laziness”. No. Sir. He produced Rigamortis, Black Lip Bastard, Poe Man’s Dreams, Hol’ Up etc.

    “America is not good and it is all going to end soon” Not quite…

    “It still has the sound of a mixtape with the recycled lyrics and hooks
    of other accomplished artists. Kendrick Lamar did it once and succeeded.
    We do not want to recycle a recycle. I know we are going to green but
    let us not get out of hand.” I’m not exactly sure where you got this from, how it’s detrimental to the album, or how ironic it is that Section.80 borrowed HEAVILY from Ab-Soul.

    I assume I enjoy this album a lot more because I’m immersed in the Black Hippy story and been listening for a while. It makes sense when you’ve heard Longterm Mentality, Longterm 2, Section.80, Setbacks, & Habits n Contradictions cause they all borrow from each other and sound like parts of one big project. Personally would have gave this a 4.5.

    And btw, Slaughterhouse is NOT fuckin wit Black Hippy. At All.

    (And I still got that partially finished Longterm Mentality review in the vault smh)

    1. Yeah this review was real cheap. Everyone has an opinion though I felt like u hated most of the good songs on the ablum. Pineal gland is dope

    2. This “organic interworkings” you speak of is also done with Young Money and we (well, we should) criticize them for doing it. So we can’t give “Black Hippy” a pass since they are more talented. I just do not like that concept of the recycle. If I want to hear a good cover song, I would listen to Kelly Price “As We Lay.”

      Track two sounds like “Ronald Reagan Era” slightly. He does not have the tenacity like Kendrick Lamar had but it sounds like that just a TAD.

      The significance of that statement is that I have already seen this movie. I do not see it again. It is like the Hangover 2. You know how it is basically the same movie but just in a different location? The development and layout of Control System is like Section.80 just with a different artist.

      Yes, skip “Pineal Gland.” I could not get down with the beat. The concept is fine but just can not listen to it for that long without getting that annoying beat in my brain.

      The R. Kelly and SVU was a joke. But this song was not worth remembering.

      He displayed mediocrity on that track. Maybe his brain was tired from making all of those other phenomenal tracks. Every track can not be good. Timbaland did produce Nas “You Won’t See Me Tonight.” They all can not be gems.

      I got tired of trying to decipher it after a while. I know it is just some more revolutionary lyrics.

      Well show me the borrows Kendrick Lamar used from Ab-Soul. I will be open to hear them.

      Well maybe I need to dig into the Black Hippy vaults to understand it all. But I should not have to do that to understand an artist real debut album.

      (Shit, this took a long time to write.)

      1. Well YMCMB isn’t a group. It’s a label. Significantly different because, as I mentioned before, Black Hippy projects build and borrow on each other which is not the case with YMCMB. I’m still not sure how you consider it a cover song. It’s a reoccurring character.

        Ab-Soul is as tenacious, if not more, compared to Kendrick. But that’s opinion.

        HiiiPower is Ab-Soul’s brain child. Kendrick just happened to benefit most from it. Longterm 2 was Section.80 before Section.80 was Section.80

        Pineal Gland & Lust Demons are two of my favorite songs, but we can leave that as it it cause again, that’s opinion.

        I thought you was saying Willie B was mediocre as a producer. It was the phrasing.

        Deciphering the lyrics, concept, and message of the album is a crucial part of the review. Probably should have given it a little more thought.

        All I can say is compare Kendrick’s albums to the Longterm series. Dude was definitely taking notes. He’s doing Ab-Soul better than Ab-Soul.

        But yea check out the back story. You got about 4 years of dope ass music to check out and you won’t regret it bro

        1. I wasn’t being completely serious with the cover song. I just do not really like the borrowing. I like as much originality as possible.

          I did not hear a song like “The Heart Pt. 2” on this album. Feel free to point in that direction.

          I guess I have to listen to Longterm 2.

          I want to forget Lust Demons even happen.

          I did not really know of his previous works but from that list. I know that he has better skills than what he produced on that track.

          I gave it at least three full listens…if not more.

          I will try to get around to it.

  4. I do not like this review. However, to each his own. I’m glad nappyafro did review this album, even though I’m not particularly pleased with the results. (This does not mean I agree with Vic or everything he’s saying). I do not want to continue complaining, I’m just very disappointed.

    1. I am sorry. I could not praise it like everyone else. It had its high and lows. It is similar to hip hop in general. It is on its high right now with Curren$y and Big K.R.I.T. releasing music.

      1. I understand we’re not going to agree on the quality of the music, opinions exist (you didn’t give it a terrible score anyway). But aside from the difference in opinion, I also do not like the review and how it was done. I’m not attempting to start an argument, though. I’m not going to be doing any better (I don’t write reviews), so thank you for your effort and contribution to nappyafro. Maybe this could receive a “Second Opinion” featuring the majority of the nappyafro crew, being that it has received plenty feedback. That’d be appreciated by me.

        1. You do not like the attempts of colorful humor in my reviews? Oh well. I try. It is cool. It is up to them to do another review. I just gave my opinion.

          1. I didn’t say that was specifically why. But you’re right, it is all cool, and the review’s your opinion.

    2. Dang, I thought I wuz gonna be the first 2 say I didn’t like the review. I do agree with the rating though, and I am a fan of Ab. I simply think he could’ve done better.

  5. I too felt the review could’ve been better. I agree with vic for the most part. I’d give it atleast a 4.

  6. Ab Soul is the weakest link in his crew by a good margin, although Jay Rock has made weaker songs before. But when a crew is as good as Black Hippy is (I’d say they’re a modern day Souls of Mischief in terms of California groups, but the sound is so much different), even a weak link like Ab Soul is still a great rapper, if a bit of a weak identity.

  7. I don’t see anything wrong with the review as far as it being “messed up” or “cheap”. CDG actually gave me insight because I’m pretty new to the music as well. I listened to the album in passing so I don’t have an opinion just yet on the album, but the way this review is written and the insight given should be given a little more respect in my opinion. Good job bruh.

  8. The twittersphere is shittin on this review… great publicity tho.

    As far as people saying Ab-Soul is the weakest link, I can’t imagine that yall have heard his music. He is dope as fuck period. Black Hippy doesn’t even have a weakest link.

  9. Ab Soul is the weakest link in his crew by a good margin, although Jay Rock has made weaker songs before. But when a crew is as good as Black Hippy is (I’d say they’re a modern day Souls of Mischief in terms of California groups, but the sound is so much different), even a weak link like Ab Soul is still a great rapper, if a bit of a weak identity.

    1. I would say Jay Rock is to my ears. But I haven’t really listened to Jay Rock. His voice just sounds like a grown man version of Tyler the Creator.

  10. I don’t see anything wrong with the review as far as it being “messed up” or “cheap”. CDG actually gave me insight because I’m pretty new to the music as well. I listened to the album in passing so I don’t have an opinion just yet on the album, but the way this review is written and the insight given should be given a little more respect in my opinion. Good job bruh.

  11. yeah cornell? your review sucked ass. I cringed the entire time. Only because you clearly had no understanding whatsoever of the concept (you had to google pineal gland?) and you still had the audacity to do a review on it. he stole his OWN sample? really? we’re “going green but let us not get out of hand”. are you mocking the movement? they’re not environmentalists what the fuck does that even mean? I really don’t have time to go paragraph for paragraph with it. But as a reader, for your blog to be top 25 on someone’s website I expected a more informed review. weak.

  12. The twittersphere is shittin on this review… great publicity tho.

    As far as people saying Ab-Soul is the weakest link, I can’t imagine that yall have heard his music. He is dope as fuck period. Black Hippy doesn’t even have a weakest link.

  13. yeah cornell? your review sucked ass. I cringed the entire time. Only because you clearly had no understanding whatsoever of the concept (you had to google pineal gland?) and you still had the audacity to do a review on it. he stole his OWN sample? really? we’re “going green but let us not get out of hand”. are you mocking the movement? they’re not environmentalists what the fuck does that even mean? I really don’t have time to go paragraph for paragraph with it. But as a reader, for your blog to be top 25 on someone’s website I expected a more informed review. weak.

  14. If you are not familiar with Ab-Soul or Black Hippy’s music catalogue you really need to get on that before you even critique this album. Like Vic was saying, Black Hippy is a collective unit unlike any other group (including Slaughterhouse and not remotely similar to YMCMB). I gave this 5 stars, then again I’ve been a fan of the Carson Arsonist for years.

    1. I think artist should go into their albums thinking they always have new listeners. So a little background in your music does not hurt. You know how the Avengers reintroduced the characters in the movie? You should do that in all forms of entertainment.

  15. If you are not familiar with Ab-Soul or Black Hippy’s music catalogue you really need to get on that before you even critique this album. Like Vic was saying, Black Hippy is a collective unit unlike any other group (including Slaughterhouse and not remotely similar to YMCMB). I gave this 5 stars, then again I’ve been a fan of the Carson Arsonist for years.

    1. I think artist should go into their albums thinking they always have new listeners. So a little background in your music does not hurt. You know how the Avengers reintroduced the characters in the movie? You should do that in all forms of entertainment.

  16. I think more ppl should hear his Longterm stuff and old features. I’m gonna give this a better listen.

    1. We don’t’ assign reviews to people based on longevity or seniority. If you’re staff, we fully believe you are capable of putting up dope reviews. So CDG called the review and he handled it.

    1. We don’t’ assign reviews to people based on longevity or seniority. If you’re staff, we fully believe you are capable of putting up dope reviews. So CDG called the review and he handled it.

  17. I’d just like to mention, as someone who didn’t care for the review (not for the score, and I do appreciate the effort of Cornell for nappyafro) and does think highly of the album, that I disagree with everybody saying that you need to hear his old stuff to understand or to appreciate, or that you need to listen to some of his old stuff because it’s better. I’ve listened to his three prior works, however I do think you definitely can listen to Control System as a debut and enjoy it. I think it’s still just as good and that you don’t need any of the old stuff to understand and enjoy the quality of this work. I also think as a whole piece of work (album/mixtape) it’s his best outing so far. This is just my perspective.

    1. I agree. But you can’t understand references to past works if you’ve never heard them and there were quite a few on this album.

      1. Understandable, but at the same time, you can’t expect/require everyone who hears your album to know your entire catalog. There is something “cool” about linking and making references to previous projects, but each album should have some expectation to garner new fans. In that respect, new listeners are still able to evaluate and form opinions “cold” from the street.

        1. Which I completely agree with, but if that’s the case, don’t even acknowledge the fact that it is a reference to past works. Because if you do and you aren’t familiar with the references it’s an uneducated opinion.

          1. Uneducated opinion is just opinion. We write reviews, not factual articles here bruh. Him mentioning a reference to former work, that’s a fact. You don’t have to even do THAT much. I’m not sure what you all expect from us here, but we listen to music, give opinions (mostly) and when there are facts that we can use, we put those in where they fit. But mostly, this shit is opinion. Just like y’all have called this review everything but good, you haven’t linked it to any of his other writings on other sites. Does that make your opinion of this review any more or less flimsy?

          2. That’s not the point. It doesn’t matter how much he liked the album or the score he gave it. Like you said, that’s opinion and I’m fine with that. Whenever I’m writing I try and be as in depth as possible because even if we may disagree, you see where I’m coming from. The consensus of the feedback was more so, “damn did he even try”? rather than “change the score”! But I mean it is what it is, I ain’t mad or no shit lol… It’s all love

  18. I’d just like to mention, as someone who didn’t care for the review (not for the score, and I do appreciate the effort of Cornell for nappyafro) and does think highly of the album, that I disagree with everybody saying that you need to hear his old stuff to understand or to appreciate, or that you need to listen to some of his old stuff because it’s better. I’ve listened to his three prior works, however I do think you definitely can listen to Control System as a debut and enjoy it. I think it’s still just as good and that you don’t need any of the old stuff to understand and enjoy the quality of this work. I also think as a whole piece of work (album/mixtape) it’s his best outing so far. This is just my perspective.

    1. I agree. But you can’t understand references to past works if you’ve never heard them and there were quite a few on this album.

      1. Understandable, but at the same time, you can’t expect/require everyone who hears your album to know your entire catalog. There is something “cool” about linking and making references to previous projects, but each album should have some expectation to garner new fans. In that respect, new listeners are still able to evaluate and form opinions “cold” from the street.

        1. Which I completely agree with, but if that’s the case, don’t even acknowledge the fact that it is a reference to past works. Because if you do and you aren’t familiar with the references it’s an uneducated opinion.

          1. Uneducated opinion is just opinion. We write reviews, not factual articles here bruh. Him mentioning a reference to former work, that’s a fact. You don’t have to even do THAT much. I’m not sure what you all expect from us here, but we listen to music, give opinions (mostly) and when there are facts that we can use, we put those in where they fit. But mostly, this shit is opinion. Just like y’all have called this review everything but good, you haven’t linked it to any of his other writings on other sites. Does that make your opinion of this review any more or less flimsy?

          2. That’s not the point. It doesn’t matter how much he liked the album or the score he gave it. Like you said, that’s opinion and I’m fine with that. Whenever I’m writing I try and be as in depth as possible because even if we may disagree, you see where I’m coming from. The consensus of the feedback was more so, “damn did he even try”? rather than “change the score”! But I mean it is what it is, I ain’t mad or no shit lol… It’s all love

          3. LOL well it was the point when you started talking about how much he knew about the dudes work as it related to this review. But aite lol

          4. See we drawing two different points from the same statement. You’re saying you shouldn’t have to hear an artist’s old shit to appreciate their new shit. Which is true. I’m saying from a writer’s position, it’s advantageous to hear the previous works especially if you’re gonna spend so much time on the references to said projects in the critique

          5. Yeah, there isn’t a disagreement in it helping. However, you saying it’s uneducated because he’s not familiar with the referenced works but he’s educated enough to KNOW they are references should be plenty enough when he’s reviewing THIS new project, not the previous works. It’s like hey, he talks about this on another album as well. That should be fine, imo of course. Sometimes those little mentions in reviews are meant just for the reader to gather more info if they see fit, not to set the writer up to evaluate the entire discography as it relates to this one album do to this one mention on this one song. That’s all I’m saying.

            However, at this point I’ve spent almost as much time talking about the detractors from this review as if I wrote it. I’m just trying to make sure folks aren’t out here killing the nappyafro name because they didn’t agree with one review for one artist that apparently a lot of folks like. It’s okay to have criticism, that’s what we do here. Just let it be founded on something outside of “I like that dude, don’t talk bad about the album.” That’s not directed at you, that’s just a general statement about the site. One low score about MC NAMEHERE and folks go apeshit about the writer not knowing Hip Hop and being a cog in the corporate machine, etc. Meanwhile, it’s possible entirely that the writer just don’t like this project and gave his opinion based on what he just heard. Not on what he knows about the artists other albums, his upbringing or his background.

          6. Yea that’s real lol. But I like to say all hype is good hype cause even if a nigga came to the ‘Fro to shit on this review, he probably will end up reading 10 other articles he like That’s how the dice roll.

            But really I think it comes down to fan service. You don’t owe the reader a got damn thing, but like I was saying earlier people who like this shit at least want the pleasure of saying “even though we disagree, I feel you”.

            Regardless, the ‘Fro still one of the best sites out there and I doubt any dissenters in the c-section would disagree.

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