Second Opinion: J.Cole – Cole World: The Sideline Story

We already heard what the homie DJ LP had to say about J.Cole’s debut studio album. We give it a second look in what is quickly becoming the fro’nation’s favorite recurring article. Hear what the rest of the staff thinks on such a big album, as we each talk about Cole World: The Sideline Story. – Saule Wright

 

Saule Wright
J. Cole was in a position that not too many new artists have found themselves in lately, being quite honest, we can say it’s unprecedented. Jay Z, love him or hate him, is probably one of the most popular rappers in the last 15-20 years. Having him co-sign you means that you gotta come out correct. Add to that some extremely strong mixtapes and you have the perfect storm to flop. I’m glad to say he answered the call and didn’t fold under the pressure. The beats on here are dope with only 1 or 2 songs that I wasn’t really wowed by, subjects were varied, and his delivery was on point. I’ve heard folks criticize the bars and sure, there are some questionable ones but when you include this many songs, that may happen. Even still, they don’t dominate the album. I think the storytelling moments about his signing and such add to the enormity of this album for his career and complete it as well. Had he dropped about 4 or 5 songs from this project, I think we’d be in rare air nowadays (5 Stars). As it stands, this is a tremendous debut effort from J.Cole. He faced the hype dead on, delivered, now has to overcome the hype, the cosign, a dope album, AND strong first week sales for his second album. Good luck bruh.

DuB
The first time I heard about J. Cole is when news broke that Jay had just signed Rocnation’s first artist. I remember thinking “so?”. Jay has been known to sign some pretty mediocre talent (Bleek, and all the cats in State Property not named Young Chris, Beans, and Freeway) and then Blueprint 3 dropped and I heard “A Star Is Born”. I remember thinking he was going to be one of the nicest newcomers since Drake. I went on and fell in love with all of his music and became a huge fan. Now it has been about two years since “A Star Was Born”, and we have the album that will act a foundation to the rest of his career. On Cole World: The Sideline Story we find J. Cole on the stage that he has been waiting to perform on his entire life. It is very obvious that he enjoyed making this album. We get a story of a young man who very intelligently paints a picture of the world from his pint of view. From songs like “Lost Ones”, “Lights Please”, and “Never Told” to songs like “Mr. Nice Watch”, “Can’t Get Enough”, and “Work Out”; he creates his world and it becomes very easy to understand that he sees the world as a multilayer of emotions. The question of how good the album is has been going around for awhile. Some say it could’ve been an instant classic, while others say it isn’t what it should’ve been. Point is, we could’ve taken 10 songs from all of his projects and made a 10 track album that could’ve been comparible to Illmatic (I have the tracklisting ready if you want to challenge me). This album isn’t an instant classic, but what is? Classics all have to pass the test of time, and the only thing keeping me from calling this “Classic” is it hasn’t been out long enough. Yet I will be willing to say very early, that 10 years from now people will want to ask him about this album because of the status of “Classic” it will attain.

H20
Three years ago, I don’t think anyone would have been able to guess that the first signee of Roc Nation would be heralded as Hip-Hop’s last great hope. They also wouldn’t have guessed that his debut album would be expected to be a classic by people who’d only heard three mixtapes. Yet somehow, three years later, J. Cole is here with what has to be album of the year. Despite the rumors that he was getting dropped, no hit singles, and competition from his boss for the aforementioned honor, my first spin of Cole World: The Sideline Story exceeded all my expectations. Does that mean that I thought this would be a classic debut album? No, because I don’t believe in instant classics; we can talk about where J. Cole’s catalog stands 5-10 years from now. What I do know is that this undoubtedly an exceptionally well-crafted album and the best debut album of any Hip-Hop artist since Food & Liquor in ’06. You don’t really have to agree; most of the people who listen to this album right now are going to still be caught up in ridiculously high expectations they had for this album. When you put that aside, you’ll see that while time will tell whether or not Cole released a classic, what is important is that he released one of the best hip-hop albums of the year and should be proud of how his debut turned out. With music like this, it won’t be long before he’s off the sidelines and leading the league.

B-Easy
I think Cole World: The Sideline Story is more about the moment. Not to say the album isn’t good because it’s a great debut for J. Cole. But it feels as if most of Hip-Hop is genuinely happy for Jermaine not to only finally drop his debut album but to have a spotlight on rap music that doesn’t feel dumbed down and is multifaceted. Add to the fact that we’ve literally seen this kid working to this point for the past three years; Cole World is an accumulation of all of this. Classic? I don’t know. There’s still a lot of cringe-worthy lyrics here (That “you can’t out-fart me” line on “Dollar And A Dream III” still fucks with me every time I hear it). But as most of my homies here at nappyafro have already said, it’s too early to start placing that stamp on this album. But damn, this is an exceptional start to J. Cole’s career.

  1. i was really not impressed with this album. I mean, Cole got better after each mixtape, was i wrong to think this album would be better than the Warm Up and Friday Night Lights? IMO FNL is superior to SLS. The inclusion of old songs definitively hurt this album. I think his obsession with doing everything himself, production wise, hurt him.

    I’d give the album a 3.5/5 or 4/5 at the highest

  2. I don’t see this album ever being classic cuz of Mr. Nice Watch.. Cole was really weak on that song. But an excellent debut nonetheless

    1. I dissagree. College Dropout had The New Work Out Plan, and Graduation had Hot and Drunk girls. Not every song has to be super lyrical on a classic.

      1. Am I the only one that thinks Graduation is Kanye’s first NON-classic? Don’t get me wrong it’s an A album, but classic idk. Now the first two, and maybe Dark Fantasy on the other hand…

        1. Graduation is not only my favorite Kanye album, but one of my favorite albums period. I will give you that “Drunk And Hot Girls” is kinda weak at first. But then again, The Blueprint 1 had “Jigga That Nigga” and I got used to that song. Almost every classic almost has one of those songs (Like DuB mentioned above).

          But I don’t think Cole World is classic either.

          1. I love Jigga that Nigga. I love Graduation. Just for some reason never seemed classic to me the way albums 1,2, and 5 do

      2. Idk if I consider Graduation a classic, certainly great but maybe not classic. But “Drunk And Hot Girls” didn’t really try to be lyrical, Mr. Nice Watch did. And imo New Workout Plan succeeded because it was funny, Mr. Nice Watch is just there. We’ve heard Cole do bragging raps and he’s normally good to great at it but he said almost nothing of note on that song. It’s really just a waste of space. And Cole spent too much of the album not really talking about anything. Nobody’s Perfect sounded like it could have been a great relationship song but instead Cole just bragged and talked about fucking, it was almost like he copied and pasted verses from another song since the hook sounded like it had meaning.
        Right now I’m saying 4 stars and I think I’ll feel the same way in 5 years.

  3. J Cole album for me is a 3.5 – 4 star album. Mr. Nice Watch took away the vibe but after I went to the next song I was good again. Maybe this will be a classic in the next few years but for right now we need to stop throwing that word “Classic” around so loose like that. On that Graduation comment that album is good and one of Kanye best albums but College Dropout is by far my favorite album from Kanye.. That album alone convinced me there was hope for hip hop to make great albums again, then we got blessed with Common “BE”, and so forth. Funny how just about everybody rating is nearly the same

    1. Yeah College Dropout is a definite classic, am I the only one who prefers Late Registration though?

      1. Late Registration was awesome too, I bought the deluxe edition of it with the poster the day it was released. But College Dropout is my favorite though. I had it on bootleg first then I bought it the day it came out, just like I did with T.I. “Trap Muzik”. This my favorite album from T.I. and back in 03 me & my cuz use to ride in his chevy bumping the hell out of all that shit.

      1. For the longest time I couldnt decide whether Paper Trail was better than King but I can listen to King more. Than Urban Legend comes after, Tip came with the heat and energy on that record

    1. For me its Trap Muzik *my favorite*, King, a tie between I’m Serious & Urban Legend, and the other ones which wasn’t bad albums but I didn’t really like them much either.

  4. This is solid album — But after further listen can only give this 4 stars. This is 4th best album I heard this year. Good music but to me the beats held the album back from getting tht 1/2 star.

        1. That’s a understatement… Once before he was a really big Notorious BIG fan and years down the road he started to shit on Big for Jay-Z. He know just about every Jay-Z lyric out there even stuff a lot of people don’t know about. He say everybody hate on Jay-Z which isn’t true

          1. I did’t shit on Biggie; he’s my 2nd favorite MC of all time (2Pac is my 139th on that list by the way). At one point Jay-Z just became #1 because Biggie didn’t have much material. B.I.G. is head and shoulders over 99% of these new rappers though.

          2. B Easy tripping, 139th?? WTF? 2Pac was on your top 10 a while back and now all of a sudden he is 139? Well which rapper are in the 11-138 list. I know Pac blow them away by a long shot. That’s hating for real and you say I be hating on Jay-Z which I don’t but you hating on a dead man. I think people still feel salty about Pac mashing Jay-Z and Notorious BIG. Instead of them calling Pac name on songs instead they do subliminal disses, what part of the game is that? Especially when you have the hottest and top emcee dissing you.. We all know Jay was Biggie doormat at that time period and now he blossom into a wealthy business man *clap hands*. Anyway Biggie is better than Jay-Z but not by much though…. Biggie was just more raw and said some fucked up shit which was dope. Jay be too scared to say something fucked up in his rhymes besides the little Nas disses about the condom in the baby seat line.

          3. If he doesn’t like Pac’s music it doesn’t mean he is “hating on a dead man”. He didn’t disrespect him, it is just his opinion.

          4. Well I know B-Easy in person and he does like Pac but not much as Jay-Z but he do like Pac even though he is not high on his list. A few years ago he said Pac was probably in his top 10 or 15 now today he is number 139? He been hating on Pac for a while though. Mostly because he felt like Pac was the reason why Biggie died, but Biggie shouldn’t have went to the west coast during that time period. He should have waited until everything cool down.

      1. @ Dub – This is good album for J. Cole – But prefer Friday Nite Lights better. Production was solid & lyrics were very good – but still will take WTT, Carter 4 and Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang and probably Laser b4 this album in my humble IMO. I like Sec 80 but not in my top 5 – prefer Red Album and Macbach Music album better. But all aforementioned are good albums. I guess it’s just preference for everybody and how U relate to the lyrics. J. Cole album not close to a classic @ this point to me. He still has room to grow. But hey thats just my IMO.

        1. @ DJ LP — Laser does have few flaws on it (I’ll give U tht) – but I still prefer Lupe lyrical content and subject matter overall over Cole World (Cole World overall is a better album) I’m sure J. Cole album will grow on me over time – but y’all acting like J Cole drop Illmatic or Resonable Doubt — This is a 4 stars album @ BEST — @ MrHusein so yes I say the Carter 4 is better IMO. Carter 4 is the shit to me – but to my credit I also stated WTT, Friday Nite Lights and Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang (have u heard Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang – be honest) are better albums. We all got opinons- so we all can agree to disagree — but I can debate all day if you want! lol

          1. Do you think Jay-Z or Nas knew what those first albums would be like once they first dropped them? No one knew until time later on. Same applies to this album. It can go two ways.

          2. @Dj LP I disagree! I think they knew exactly what their first albums would be. They were telling stories that weren’t being heard before. If anything, the only question they had is how will people whose lives were nothing like their own accept it.

            They understood their culture would love it though.

          3. How is C4 better?

            Wayne said “You can have it your way. Burger King”
            Dude is some ass man, C4 is a 3 at best.. And as far Lasers goes I don’t think I’ve ever been so disappointed in an album, so many terrible hooks and crappy beats.. it really boggles my mind. There were a few standouts but it was nowhere close to what I expected.
            And this is coming from a guy who says Cole World is a 4 star album as well

          4. I’m not going to defend Laser album. I was disappointed @ 1st – but if you really listen to the album Lupe goes hard on Social issues and the production was more so on some rock type shit (not for everybody) hooks — not bad but corny! But Lupe is so lyrically talented is hard not give Lasers is props — this is Lupe Nastradamus album – great music but not to his standard.- not going hold his talents against him —

            But Carter 4 too me is very good – I’m not give anyone a hard time if they prefer or think Cole World is better or any other album for tht matter.. I can see agurements for both side. But Carter 4 is very good to me; I just think since Wayne is closet 1/2 a fag (really he just werid) hip hop purest realy make up bs flaws on Carter 4 just discredit his talent – But Wayne is hip hop- but more in modern day – I grew up on 90’s hip hop and beleive 88-96 were the best yrs in Hip Hop ever — Wayne is new generation- Carter 4 is a good 2 great album — music has just changed.

            @Dj LP I agree with DUB – Nas and Jay Z in 2011 are still light yr beyond most new artist lyricall content – I’ve watched documentary on both making of Illmatic and Resondable Doubt – ever person involed with the project knew they were on something special – These albums you knew were classic as soon as heard thm (prefer Stillmatic over Illmatic) – J. Cole is cold lyricis and Cole World could have been a classic and could development to be a great album over time.This is a very good debut — I’m Cole fan but hs debut is not going to be his best album and do think he just missed making a classic but Jay Z really didn’t give him the support or budget he needed to excute…lol

            But to give Cole World 4.5 rating and WTT & CIV only gets 4 if my memory is correct is injustice. But tht just my opinion – dont mean I rht or anybody else is wrong. Thts just hip hop! Thts my rant y’all – Peace!

            Oh yea Pac will eat most rapper up on track. We should do column on Pac calbos and rank his verse with other features – I bet he finishes 1st on most tracks no worse then 3rd. Pac ate Emcee – Rakim even said Pac was lyrically genuis in the lastest XXL.

          5. I’m not saying Lasers doesn’t have its moments, and by its moments I mean All Black Everything & Words I Never Said, but overall its just not a good album. And the album was about as rock sounding as a Hannah Montana album, it was pop plain and simple.

            And if C4 represents the new era of hip hop it only does so in a way that shows everything wrong with modern hip hop. Stale lyrics, repetitive beat… I really don’t see how any Wayne fans could like that album. Have you listened to any of Wayne’s music from 04-08 lately or even No Ceilings? This new lazy Wayne is terrible and C4 was everything I feared it would be. He had a few lines here and there but I really don’t see how you can put it over Cole World.

          6. @Eagle Eye-Stillmatic over illmatic?? WOW! Stillmatic wasn’t even classic to me it was alright. If you said It Was Written then yeah I could agree with that. J Cole debut was pretty good though not classic and not near no 4.5 to me but it was good though. I’ll say 3.5-4 at best. Lupe “Lasers” album wasn’t terrible but I was pretty upset hearing it. I didn’t like his second album much either. I did love the first album especially the original Food & Liquor that leaked before the retail version. I still have the original album actually. I love rock and stuff like that but Lupe didn’t sound right over that, he sounded forced. Yes I do agree with the 2Pac comment! Jay-Z & Nas are 5,000 light years away from the current rappers right now only a few of them are really good right now. It’s hard for me to consider Lil Wayne a new generation rapper when he came out in the 90’s, but he was young though. @Rickjamesbitch-Dude I cosign with you on Carter IV. Wayne was lazy as fuck on there and he didn’t sound inspired at all. I hope T.I. come hard on this new album since Wayne didn’t execute well. He was suppose to come out hard and have the bomb album. You noticed how his album sales fell off week by week? Baby think he slick. And I use to be a big CMR fan back in the day but I can’t biased about this shit though. C4 is overrated than a muthafucka, not wack but it wasn’t that good though. 99-07 Wayne was much better.

          7. @ my boy P-Body -Stillmatic over illmatic?? Yea I know — I prefer Stillmatic — but also think It Was Written was better (or prefer listening) thn Illmatic as well. Illmatic is not over rated – just beleive Stillmatic was perfect (ok minus bravehearts verses..lol).This album covered every element of hip hop such as hip hop batte, stroyrtelling, lyrics, social issues,passion,and production (Nas best produce album). IMO perfect album — Love the Blueprint and beleive its close to 5 star album – but stillmatic was better to me. IWW – flawless as well! Suprise know one has done Stillmatic in Classic album section yet! I’m campaigning…lol

            Moreover — C4 goes hard – but we can agree to disagree –its all good. I know on this board this album is trash or subpar -even though the streets think different (in most cirmcumstance is not saying much either..lol).

            @Rickjamesbitch — i feel your point on Laser – It had its flaws – but I thought Lupe sounded comfortable over the rock pop productions. But this is coming from black person who rocks with linkin park. lol I’m ashamed to admited it- but my somalian ex girl open my ears to different sounds, so I guess I’m more open to Laser. Don’t get me wrong 3.5 stars @ best but lyrics were a 5 star. Lupe is top 5 emcee rht now to me. But 4 the record LASER IS NOT BETTER THN COLE WORLD.

          8. I’m a black guy who rocks with Linkin Park too my dude! No shame in that. I prefer Hybrid Theory and Meteora to their newer albums though. And Lupe wasn’t bad lyrically he just wasn’t spectacular, but my real issue is with the terrible hooks! The album just didn’t feel like a Lupe album to me. But if you feel Cole World is better then I don’t really see much point in debating lol

          1. I actually enjoyed Kasers mostly because I listen to all different genres, but Wayne has been off, he’s kinda washed up. But if Wayne released Carter 2 and stopped, dude woulda been remembered as a lyrical genius. I can even say after like father, like son. But afterwards he fell off the grid. And not gonna lie I’m disappointed in Cole world, I kinda set my expectations too high. It’s a very good album, there’s just something missing in it. I still listen to it all the time though.

    1. I like it, man – what Cole did on that one will probably go unappreciated by almost everyone. He sounds comfortable on a marketable song while remaining genuine.

      1. I do too but that holds little weight being among the Hov stan residency. And LMFAO at C4 or Lasers even coming close to Cole World. I look at it as basic instinct. The evidence is in the replay. I have been hungry to replay certain Cole songs since I got them, lets not even talk about how more than half of WTT is part of my top 25 most played. Only C4 songs I replay without thinking are It’s Good and How to Hate, as for Lasers…NONE

        1. @ Chip — Laser does not touch Cole World cohesively – but Laser has better standout tracks to me thn Cole World. But Cole World is a better album. This is the 4th best album I heard this year! C4 is better cohesive album to me thn Cole World – now if we comparing Friday Night Lights I would not disagree.

  5. Self made, while far from album of the year, is a really solid compilation as far as compilations go though. “Rise” is a real sleeper

  6. albums a 3, not even album of the year level.

    Section 80, Step Brothers, Angels Exodus, and Pl3dge, and Random Axe are the albums of the year so far, with XXX and Oneirology as runner ups.

    Friday Night Lights would be up there if it were 2011.

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