Second Opinion: Tha Carter IV

DuB is just a few days removed from questioning Pac’s legacy and yesterday he reviewed the latest album by self-proclaimed, “Greatest Rapper Alive”, Tha Carter IV (Check that review here). DuB’s never half-steppin’ on his reviews so we’re not doing this to step on his review, but just to let other folks know (Once again) what the rest of the staff thought about such a major album. – Saule Wright

B-Easy
After so-so releases like Rebirth & I Am Not A Human Being, Tha Carter IV was suppose to be the reassurance that Lil’ Wayne was still at the top of his game. But an album filled with lines like “Fuck them niggas, and them hoes, them niggas pussy. Camel toes” have Weezy looking more like a lazy parody of his former self instead of the best rapper alive. This gets even more apparent when Wayne gets out rapped by Rick Ross on “John” and the best verses on Tha Carter IV are from Andre 3000 & Tech N9ne. A few songs here even sound like lesser versions of previous ones (“President Carter” sounds like “Outstanding”, “Megaman” sounds like “Ransom”, etc.). It’s not like the album isn’t enjoyable at all, parts of it give glimpses of why Wayne has amassed million of fans. And of course an uninspired Lil’ Wayne is still better than most rappers. But at this stage in Weezy’s career, we need a more defining album than this. I guess will wait and see on Tha Carter V.

Saule Wright
Weezy continues to show signs of true skill and promise that he could be in the discussion for G.O.A.T. …if he was consistent. You can’t be the that person without discussing lyrics and that is the problem I have with this album. He has some hot lines like “Money talks and muh’fuckas eavesdroppin'” and “I bought a brand new attitude, the hate is music to my ears I got my dancin’ shoes” but fucks that up with lines like “She’s my honey bee, bzz bazz” and “I tear it up like loose leaf paper” among others. It’s pretty simple to me, if Wayne dedicated himself to his rhyming instead of just completing songs he would be hard to refute as one of the best to do it lyrically (Listen to the poetry at the end of “President Carter”). Instead, what we get and what we’ve been getting is someone who finds great beats to drop punchlines, good or bad. The value of this album is overwhelmingly the tracks, and not the content. If you’re one of those folks that say that Weezy isn’t lyrical he doesn’t give me enough proof to refute you. If you’re one of those folks that really bought into him being “The Greatest Rapper Alive” I can’t wait to hear you defend the bars on this album. If you’re one of those people that pay more attention to the tracks than you do the content, pick it up. I think this album is largely incomplete and inconsistent. Oh, and the interlude is damn near the best song on the album…and he’s not on that one.

King Jerm
Wayne did it again. He is catching alot of flack from critics all over from sounding “uninspired” on this album, but I actually like this album. People are quick to judge this album to Tha Carter III, but what people forget is that Weezy is a different person than he was 3 years ago. He has been to jail, had 3 kids, and has positioned himself into the upper echelon of Hip-Hop. I really think this is his most complete album to date and the only question marks on this album was the song with T-Pain and the addition of Shyne on that song. Weezy, fuck what the rest of these cats saying…keep doing you!

H20
This album to me is the perfect example of an album that was rushed out to meet the hype. When “6 Foot 7 Foot” came out, everyone went crazy for about a month. Every other single off this album has been underwhelming, to say the least. It’s the exact same way with this entire album; Weezy doesn’t sound like he’s really giving his all on this album. He uses the exact same flow on each song and never really sounds too energetic on this track. When you listened to Tha Carter III, regardless of whether or not you thought it was classic, you can’t tell me that listening to that album you didn’t think he wasn’t working his ass off to make it one. I can’t even remotely say the same for this album; it sounds like a collection of songs that were put together at the last minute to stay relevant. Is it a good collection of songs? Well, about half of them are decent, and even that half sounds like every Weezy song you’ve heard before. When the best songs on your album are the ones you DON’T rap on, there’s a problem. Tha Carter IV is, by far, the worst of Tha Carters, and for this collection of songs, I’m happy that C4 blew up in his face.

    1. it’s not a disclaimer. Someone asked this the last time we did a Second Opinion article so I just addressed it so it doesn’t get asked.

  1. People keep saying “oh…he didn’t even rap on the Interlude and the Outro…” but they use the same beat as the Intro. If you stuck all three of those songs together (which is probably how they were recorded), Wayne has the longest verse on it by far.

    That said, the album is still underwhelming…but there are plenty of other reasons to cite than him not being on the “two best songs.”

    1. Real talk the album isn’t bad but it is overrated like a mutha. I’m tripping off the fact he made us wait 3 years and this was the best he can do. Maybe my standards for certain rappers are too high nowadays.

  2. I’d probably give Tha Carter IV a 1.5 because unlike what Jerm is saying, the dude isn’t progressing. There are changes in his life but the those clearly don’t show in his music, as he lazily goes from punchline to punchline.

  3. I can live with these second opinion ratings (except one…nigga you REACHING). I do feel like Wayne is on the steady decline but I really don’t feel its entirely his fault. The one who is to blame is the masses. They ate up everything Wayne put out even the BS and Wayne saw that so he feels he can get away with it with out trying. Sure enough your getting the backlash

  4. I agree with King Jerm thoughts — I was @ 4.5 star myself.This album just flows from begining to the end. Not flawless – but pretty close. (sidenote WTT is a 4.5 star album as well) – But once again I’ll ask somebody to name 5 albums better than the Carter IV to drop this years- in 3 years people will be caling this one of Wayne best albums. I’m not a huge Wayne fan – personaly Jay Z & Nas are my farovites – but Wayne is becoming very close too my favorite with his consistency of music and his skills on the mic. Imo Wayne only had 2 bad bars on the album (although I think he tried to hard with the punchlines). Wayne lyrics were very tuff nevertheless. Best rapper alive title for the moment I’m not sure about – but this album was very good to me.

        1. Game – The R.E.D. Album [Review]
          Jay-Z & Kanye West – Watch The Throne [Review]
          Kendrick Lamar – Section 80 [Review]
          Big Sean – Finally Famous [Review]
          Maybach Music Group – Self Made Vol. 1 [Review]
          Saigon – The Greatest Story Never Told [Review]

          Now, if we was listing mixtapes…

          1. I kinda agree with the list in a way. Personally me I feel like Curren$y stuff is better than Carter IV. I can listen to it a lot more than Carter IV.

    1. Let’s see:

      Kendrick Lamar – Section 80
      Gucci Mane & Waka Flocka – Ferrari Boys
      Jay-Z and Kanye West – Watch the Throne
      even fucking
      Game – R.E.D. Album
      Big Sean – Finally Famous

      Carter IV is an easy candidate for worst album of the year for me.

      1. Gucci Mane & Waka Flocka – Ferrari Boys — Im sorry I cannot co-sign this one. I do listen to them -dont get me wrong. But “NO”!

        1. i will agree its a weak release by their standards but i feel as if it has much more inspiration and chemistry on it than Tha Carter IV ever does.

  5. @ B- Easy — Only album I have not heard is Sec 80 — I know I’m slipping – I will get a copy b4 end of next week.

    Red Album — good album to me not better than TCIV IMO humble opinion

    WTT — toss up – will not agree or disagree.Love this album
    Finally Famous – being from detroit I will say very good debut but not better than TCIV – but I’ll give you that one — just based on a matter of opinion.
    Maybach Music Group – Love this album to -give this 3.5 stars – but not on WTT or TCIV level.
    The Greates Story never told — good album – very slept on by most – Lyrical better – but I still give edge to TCIV imo– better overall album and production —— but can’t hate on this @ all.

    WTT, Finally Famous and The REd album are debatalbe – but can’t agrue against it either – the others close – You def, got good taste in music. Safe to safe we can agree to disagee. But I can’t hate on that list at all.

      1. With the bonus tracks that EP is 45 minutes long AND even though its an EP it still covers more subjects than this album.. The only bad song on the EP is Lighters, this album has several duds. So… EP>C4

        1. Bad vs Evil was solid. But to me no where near any of the Albums B-Easy metioned – let alone TCIV. Em and Royce are great lyricis but the Ep was just ok. Was few skippers on there for me. But to each is own.

          1. Fair enough, I just don’t see what’s so good about C4.. Wayne is coasting and people are still buying his crap. Wayne deserved to sell a million with C3 cuz he had been working so hard and for so long but C4 certainly doesn’t deserve those numbers.

          2. I think his record sales is the only positive pass Wayne has gotten in reality. Internet reviews are not favorable on TCIV: plus internet has top 10 worst lines on TCIV – Almost worse then 100 reason Nas lost thread a few yrs back…lol -but I’m mean everyone has their opinions (dont mean either of us are wrong). Despite Bad meets Evils flaws I still rock with the album. Neverthless even if I’m dead wrong and TCIV is still better thn what people are rating the album – I can see 3.5 if you really feel the album was weak .People acting like its the worse album to every drop in life…lol

  6. @Eagle Eye, Kind of but its only cuz people probably had pretty high expectations. Wayne is a titan in rap, arguably the most popular rapper alive but he didn’t make an album that was great or even good (imo) its 3 stars to me, maybe 2.5. And its true that people are perhaps being too hard on Wayne like saying “this is worse than Wacka Flocka” but there are also people being far too easy on him..

    1. Didn’t Hov once say that he dumbed down his lyrics to appeal to a wider audience…maybe wayne’s doing the samething.

    2. @ Rickjamesbitch. Late with reply due to labor weekend. Anyway I’m still standing firm with 4.5 stars my friend. But I can respect your opinion my friend.

  7. Sad…..only one other person gave this album higher than 3.5, that has to average out to like 3.4 it something

      1. See that’s what I just can’t get. If you’re not into the beats or overall songs on WTT that’s your weird prerogative, but lyrically they came correct, without a doubt. How do you have a Jay album with lyrics as deep as No Church, hard as Gotta Have It, raw as Welcome to the Jungle, or instant classic like why i love you and not be satisfied. Smh some of y’all need to visit like, rapgenius.com or something. Now those bars in that link? THOSE are candy

  8. I really like this Second Opinion on major albums. Really goes to show which authors need to be doing the main reviews more often. E-daps to both Saule Wright and H2O.

      1. @ King Jerm — you nailed the album review on the head IMO. I’m not sure why everybody thinks the album is bad – when its actually pretty dam good.

      2. Cmon now King Jerm! I dont wanna get into any arguments over this album or Lil Wayne in general.

        I like him or should I say his uniqueness AND I sure do love me some NappyAfro but check your opinion/review (which accounts to something when you are running a well-established hip-hop site for years) compared to others. Most can tell the difference.

        Usually, yours and B-Easy’s reviews consists of “I like this joint” … “I do not like this joint” type of writing and structure with little depth or coverage to the content of the songs. And in this sense I wrote – “which authors need to be doing the main reviews more often.”

        Not because their opinion is different from yours. In life people have different opinions. I’m aware.

        Its just opinions like these paints the word STAN in a negative shade nahmean lol. In my opinion there is nothing wrong liking artist to that level, but then present your reasons for liking in a better way then saying – “Weezy, fuck what the rest of these cats saying…keep doing you!”

        How an uninitiated music listener, unaware of Weezy’s style gonna interpret that review/opinion published on one of the well-known hip-hop site. I tell you how – “King Jerm you a dickr*der/fagg0t, take Weezy penis out of your mouth” or some other typical immature explicit language the “hip-hop heads” behind a computer uses on threads and c-sections.

        You know sometimes I really wanna know how both Saule Wright and H20 really feels about you or the quality of writing that goes as reviews on this site, since they are a part of the NappyAfro. And anything negative about site concerns them too.

        I think 3 star is a fair enough rating for the album. It is certainly better than 1 star or being labelled garbage. But you’re writing makes me hate this and basically makes people say Wayne got too many stans (used in a negative way) rather than giving Weezy props he got a loyal fanbase as they do to, lets say underground rapper X.

        You getting my point. You are more harm than good to Lil Wayne YET you come across as his fan.

        1. How in the hell did I get lumped into that comment?

          “Usually, yours and B-Easy’s reviews consists of ‘I like this joint’ … ‘I do not like this joint’ type of writing and structure with little depth or coverage to the content of the songs. And in this sense I wrote – “which authors need to be doing the main reviews more often.”

          Have you actually read my reviews? I mean really? I can take the criticism because that’s basically what we do here, but for you saying that all I do is just say “I like this song or don’t like this song” is kinda intriguing. Is it a certain review or something? If anything, I always get the emails that say I write too much. But to each his own. Thanks for reading and commenting.

        2. I might not be as in depth as you would like, but I do know there is a difference between your and you’re.

          I don’t write reviews for the “music head”, I write my reviews for the normal listener. So you will NEVER see me review certain albums. Not because I can’t, I just don’t want to.

          1. Alright! I accept defeat. Never should have went there in the first place. Reviews are basically a personal opinion.. and I’m being nothing but sincere when I say that I respect both of yours writing skills. English is not even my native language.

            But its just… i’ll leave with – that STILL you both are the missing the actual point of my first comment.

            Im including you B-Easy IF and ONLY IF you are that NappyAfro author who stans (used in a negative way) for Rick Ross the same way King Jerm comes across as a stan in this article, for Lil Wayne.

            Peace & respect to ya both!

        3. Every writer here brings something different to the table. If you aren’t a fan of a paticular writer, don’t read their stuff, but don’t dare to claim that they are not talented writers. Especially when you have the writing skills that equates to a 4th grader’s.

  9. First off, my sincerest apologies to B-Easy. Had an Oh shit! moment as soon as I read King Jerm’s response. Fail on my part.

    And I think I should totally give up now considering the “tone” of DUB’s replies. I get the impression he didnt even read my comments. Im not here for that shit cos I admire & appreciate yall hardwork over the years.

    But some folks are still missing the point…

    Remember a few days ago there was a comment on some Saule Wright written review HIGHLY praising his work. And soon Verbose replied with “Is this you Saule Wright?”

    He was probably joking BUT for a moment everybody thought that this could be really Saule Wright praising himself.

    It was written by me to show my appreciation towards his work but ultimately I end up being “more harm than good to him.”

    Get it?

    1. Either way man, it’s cool. Like I said earlier, criticism is welcomed since that’s what we do here (Hell, I welcome it). No harm done. Thanks for reading and commenting.

  10. I do agree with the poster that talked about some of these reviews… “I really like this one! it will bump in the car!” is not a good review…honestly I dont even read ya’ll reviews like that no more, thats not a depth description at all & just comes off more like bias then anything. I mean jerm gave it a 4.5 and said “keep doing you!” like…how do you defend it by saying that?

    1. Like I said earlier, it’s cool to have an opinion but I don’t think you get the point of this particular post. Jerm was giving HIS opinion (I also don’t see how that correlates to the track by track reviews).

      Also, I don’t think you’ve been reading our reviews in the first place. Do you think the review on Tha Carter IV wasn’t descriptive? Section 80? When Fish Ride Bicycles? If so, you wouldn’t make that statement.

      But once again, criticism is welcomed since that’s what we do here. Thanks for commenting.

  11. I said some of the reviews not all of them are like that…I read WFRB & stopped reading halfways…I read Section 80. You ever heard of “one bad apple poisons the rest”? thats sort of how it is. When i see the biased reviews

    1. We are the FARTHEST thing from biased. You want IN DEPTH reviews? You obviously know NOTHING about the internet! People don’t want to read all of that! Like B-Easy said…thank you for reading/commenting

    2. Here is the reason I have a hard time taking you serious, this is one of the dopest Hip Hop pages on the net. One reason why is because we give the readers a chance to add to the site. If you don’t like how we review albums, review one yourself and show us how it is done. Let the readers critique your writing. Until that happens, I really can’t take your complaints serious.

      You have an oppurtunity to show us how to do it. If you are that serious about it, do something about it.

      1. DuB…don’t waste your time with him. I BEEN asked this nigga to write a review since our have been so “shitty”. It’s been almost 2 years and the nigga still ain’t wrote NANN review. But notice how I said its been 2 YEARS…

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